Had a fun time last night in an interview with the delightful Katie Mottram, creatress of the #EmergingProud movement that seeks to give voice to those “coming out of the spiritual closet”. We talk #thepowerofNOTEs, research findings, and I share about some of my own NOTEs and how they brought me to this work.

Katie is doing amazing work bridging the gap between mental health services and challenging spiritual emergence experiences. If you want to share your experiencer story, hear others, or seek resources in this area, check out all the goodies at https://emergingproud.com/